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G. Freeman
June 19, 2002, 10:44 PM
I'm fairly new to the shotgunning scene but enjoy it thoroghly. One question though -- I'm considering purchasing a Remington 870 Youth. Would the 21" barrel be effective in breaking clay for trap shooting?

If not, would installing a full choke do the trick, just to give the shot enough time before it opens up?

Thanks in advance.

bamf
June 20, 2002, 02:49 AM
Ummm it'll do the job but a longer barrel would be better. The ideal trap shotgun would be a long barreled (30in+), high rib, high shootin gun.

But you can shoot trap with any shotgun, if you're out just to have fun or to get practive with your bird gun, go ahead with the 21in and enjoy. But if you're doing it to try to get into the sport, I'd get at least a 28in barrel. Its a good all around barrel, ok for trap, good for sportin and skeet.

Al Thompson
June 20, 2002, 04:42 AM
I think bamf is on target. It really depends on what your planning to do with the SG. The youth probably comes with a modified choke and while that will work, it's a matter of efficency. If breaking clays is the goal, better to get a 12 with the prevouisly mentioned '28 barrel.

For general shooting, that rig will do well. One is on my list too.

Dave McC
June 20, 2002, 04:54 AM
Amen to the other replies.

And Full's the way to go for trap. The tight pattern teaches us to hold closer.

I shoot an occasional round of trap with Frankenstein, my parts 870. I usually drop a bird or two per round with it vs my 30" bbled 870 TB.

No es importa.The idea's to have fun and get in some practice with my birdgun.

One of the two ranges I shoot at bans bbls less than 23".

A 21 to 23" bbled repeater is a marvelously versatile tool. Like most compromises, it's not as effective as a dedicated, single mission shotgun, but the gains in versatility offset any small loss in performance.

And, oneofthesedays I'll shoot a practical COF or two with the 20 gauge YE here just to see what happens. Bet my scores will run close to those done with a stock 18" bbled 12 gauge 870.

HTH...

dfm
June 20, 2002, 08:26 AM
A friend bought his wife a 1100 Youth model because of her petite stature ( barely 5', 90 lbs.) For her the 21" barrel is what a 28-30" model would be to one of us adult, full-sized males. She shoots a 1oz. load for trap, skeet, and SC. The lack of recoil and smaller dimensions of the gun have helped her turn into an outstanding shot.

dfm

PJR
June 20, 2002, 08:29 AM
No one would recommend a 21" barrel for trapshooting regardless of choke. Long barrels make for smoother swinging guns and if you can handle the longer barrels that's the way to go.

Are you leaning towards the 21" barrel for another reason? You did mention the Youth model so I assume you're a young and/or small person. In that case, it may be more proportionate to your size.

Barrel length doesn't affect choke performance. Full choke from a 21" barrel will pattern similarly to a 28" all else being equal. I agree with those who suggest modified choke for 16 yard trap.

G. Freeman
June 20, 2002, 10:45 AM
Thanks for the replies guys. Actually, the gun would be for my wife who is petite, but I wouldn't mind using it occasionally due to a nerve injury in my arms which prevent me from using the more heavier models.

I currently own a 26", 20 ga. BPS (approx. 7 lbs). I've only shot 3 times so far in the last month (16-yd trap), and have been getting 17 to 18 hits per 25. I'm happy with that considering the fact that on my first trip I only hit 2 out of 25 clays. I asked for some shooting advice from this gentleman on the range who kindly gave me some pointers. And guess what, his suggestions worked!

This is a real fun and relaxing sport, and I'm hooked!

Dave McC
June 21, 2002, 05:28 AM
Yup, shotgunning is addictive, and trap is one of the best ways to ensure your discretionary income leaves PDQ.

And for a tyro to get 18/25 with a 20 gauge, some dedication is required. Kudoes...

Good luck to you and yours with the YE...

CMichael
June 21, 2002, 08:41 AM
As was previously stated a 21" is not ideal.

You may want to consider for your wife a 12 gauge semi-auto and have the stock adjusted so it fits.

The semi-auto lessens the recoil and with a 12 gauge there is more of a chance of hitting something. Your wife may become frustrated pretty fast if she isn't hitting anything. That is what happened with my wife.

Michael