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ThePatriot29
April 27, 2002, 11:21 PM
I've read Ayoob's "In the Gravest Extreme."

What others should I read?
I'm looking for the classic books on gunfighting, defense. Any suggestions?

Also, I've heard alot about Condition Yellow, red, etc in relation to awareness. I have a general idea of what this means, but anyone want to list each condition and what it means? Where did this originate?

D.W. Drang
April 28, 2002, 12:32 AM
Ayoob's books are good--check out the rest. There are actually a bunch of authors who are good, depending on what you are looking for. Some authors to look for: Jim Cirrilio, Gabe Suarez, Jim Farnham, Gila Maye Hayes, and, of course, last but possibly most, Jeff Cooper.

Col Cooper is generally credited with introducing the color codes to the self-defense mind-set, as well as with being in on the ground floor of developing the Modern Technique of the Pistol.
He developed the system based on alert codes used while he served as a USMC officer during WWII.

White: Unaware of surroundings. Typified by being asleep, absorbed in a book or TV, or under the influence of drugs or alcohol.

Yellow: Aware of surroundings, "cognizant of those around you", have identified potential sources of threats, but no threat is ID'd yet.

Orange: "On Alert", specific potential threat(s) has been identified, BUT no specific threats have not arisen--they may not be real threats--so defensive action is not called for--yet. This is the time you should be devising a plan for coping with a threat.

Red: ALARM! Now is the time to implement the plan you developed during "Orange"--and it is not necessarily going to be "Start shooting!" Ideally, during Orange you will have left the AO--if not, that is your best bet now, if you can...

Some will add a fifth level of alert, "Black", to indicate that you are actually engaged in some sort of self-defense action. COL Cooper says--and I agree, FWIW--that a fifth level is not necessary, since you have begun dealing with the situation "In Red."

G3
April 28, 2002, 02:33 AM
The Farnam Method of Defensive Handgunning and Fighting Smarter by Tom Givens are must reads.

Both books are very comprehensive and are one-stop shopping of self-defense info.

ACP230
April 28, 2002, 07:13 AM
Quick Or Dead by William L. Cassidy is good. I also recommend Real World Survival: What Has Worked For Me, by Walt Rauch.

Erick Gelhaus
April 28, 2002, 10:55 AM
I threw "books" (minus the quote symbols) at the Search function. Thee were 69 hits. Looked like four of them were specific to what you are looking for.

Erick

D.W. Drang
April 28, 2002, 11:16 PM
Here is a partial list of some authors and titles that I have gotten from the King County (WA) library system:

Cooper, Jeff. Principles Of Personal Defense

Cooper, Jeff. The Complete Book Of Modern Handgunning, by Jeff Cooper and the editors of Guns and ammo magazine.

Ayoob, Massad F.
Massad Ayoob's Handgun Primer; Gun-Proof Your Children!

Ayoob, Massad F. In The Gravest Extreme: the role of the firearm in personal protection

Ayoob, Massad F. Stressfire

Ayoob, Massad F. The Truth About Self-Protection

Quigley, Paxton; illustrated by Liz Kelsey. Not An Easy Target : Paxton Quigley's self-protection for women

Quigley, Paxton. Armed & Female

May-Hayes, Gila. (Foreword by Massad F. Ayoob.) Effective Defense: the woman, the plan, the gun /by Gila May-Hayes. ALT TITLE: Woman, the plan, the gun.

Metaksa, Tanya K. Safe, Not Sorry: keeping yourself and your family safe in a violent age

Applegate, Rex. ADD AUTHOR: Melson, Charles D. The Close-Combat Files Of Colonel Rex Applegate.
(A compendium of, mostly, photos and lesson plans from COL Applegate's days training the OSS and Army Counter Intelligence agents in WWII.)

Cirillo, Jim. Guns, Bullets, And Gunfights: lessons and tales from a modern-day gunfighter /Jim Cirillo.

Farnam, John. The Street-Smart Gun Book

Suarez, Gabriel. The Tactical Advantage: a definitive study of personal small-arms tactics /Gabriel Suarez.

Ross, John Unintended consequences (Yes, this is in the library system!)

G3
April 30, 2002, 11:29 PM
The King County library is spending your tax money well.

D.W. Drang
May 4, 2002, 12:35 PM
The King County library is spending your tax money well. Great, another influx of immigrants to drive up unemployment and real estate prices! :eek: Oh, well, at least they'll be more likely to drive DOWN crime rates...

jpd82
May 4, 2002, 08:09 PM
I have a collection of books ranging from military hand to hand combat, first aid, out door survival, urban survial, ect. any thing that helps a person deal with bad situations.

Baba Louie
May 5, 2002, 09:21 AM
"Kill or be Killed" by Col. Rex Applegate says it all.

Adios Qweeksdraw

Gino
May 7, 2002, 05:52 PM
How about books to keep you from having to engage in Combat? ;) I've read all of these and all were worth the price of the book and the time to read them. I consider the first two as "must reads" for ANYONE.

The Gift of Fear - Gavin De Becker
Verbal judo - George J. Thompson
Safe in the City - Marc MacYoung
Violence, Blunders, and Fractured Jaws - Marc MacYoung
Mindhunter - John Douglas
Journey into Darkness - John Douglas
True Tails of American Violence - Chris Pfouts
What Cops Know - Connie Fletcher

DaveK
May 7, 2002, 11:30 PM
Book of Five rings is my all-time favorite.

El Vato
May 8, 2002, 02:59 PM
Living the Martial Way : A Manual for the Way a Modern Warrior Should Think by Forrest E. Morgan. A martial arts "philosophy" book that is not the slightest bit flaky, and is very applicable outside the martial arts setting.

Practical Shooting, by Brian Enos. A book on the "philosophy" of competitive practical shooting, yet very applicable to other types of physically challenging activity.