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nascarnhlnra
February 12, 2002, 05:31 PM
I am wanting to buy a metal safety button for my 590 security model but will need the right tool to fit that funky looking screw they used to mount the plastic one. Anyone know where to get such a tool and is this as easy a task as it looks?

DMK
February 12, 2002, 08:12 PM
That is actually an anti-tamper screw on mine. It is designed to be turned clockwise only. The head has little ramps that make the screw driver slip off if turned counter clockwise.

The only way I see that it could be removed is with a special tool called an "Easy Out" which is used to remove broken bolts and screws. This tool looks kind of like a drill bit threaded to dig in counter-clockwise. You can pick one up at an auto parts store.

You use one by drilling a small hole in the center of the screw, then screwing the Easy out in. As you thread it in counter-clockwise, it will dig in and unscrew the screw(hopefully).

Once you get one, I highly recomend practicing on a spare screw first. Using an Easy Out successfully takes a bit of practice and patience.

nascarnhlnra
February 13, 2002, 08:13 AM
I e-mailed Mossberg to see if they offer this tool for sale I'd really hate taking a chance on drilling it out or something. If worse comes to worse I guess I'll order the metal button then call around and find a smith to do it for me. Thanks!

DML
February 14, 2002, 12:21 AM
It's easy to remove the screw, but hard to explain it in writing.

You can use something like a Dremel tool to grind the little ramps on the one way screw and use a screwdriver with a good sharp square blade to turn it counterclockwise.

The method I use is quick and easy. Open the unloaded action and clamp it in a well padded vise. Push the safety to the fire position. Using a 1/8" drift punch, tap the back of the slot of the screw counterclockwise. By tapping lightly, you can walk the screw around until you can grab it with pliers. If you are careful, the open bolt will hold the safety lug in place while you install the new safety button. Be careful not to lose the little ball.

Vang Comp makes a very nice oversize safety button for Mossbergs. It comes with a socket head screw and lock washer. Wolf makes a steel replacement button that costs about $7.

swampgator
February 14, 2002, 02:05 AM
You can remove it by using just a punch. Although I wouldn't recommend it if you aren't confident in your abilities. Luckily I have one of the last "DO ALL" fathers who literaly can do anything!

Uncle Red
February 15, 2002, 03:31 PM
I've taken my safety off a couple of times for cleaning in the 14 years that I've had my M500. Each time I did I just used a good flat blade screwdriver and very carefully turned it lefty losie. -UR.

nascarnhlnra
February 16, 2002, 07:58 AM
Well I'm gonna go ahead and order the metal button and give it a try! Never got a response from Mossberg on my e-mail.

Bobshouse
February 16, 2002, 01:27 PM
Can anyone tell me if the metal safety button will fit a 835? Also, does it come with a new screw to replace the one you mess up?

Thanks!

Bob

utvols
February 16, 2002, 11:19 PM
ok im clueless. why does one want a metal safety? I have a 590 and have never had any complaints.:confused:

swampgator
February 17, 2002, 02:43 AM
Can anyone tell me if the metal safety button will fit a 835? Also, does it come with a new screw to replace the one you mess up?

The 835 is the same gun as the 590, which for all intents and purposes is the same as the 500. Only difference is barrel, mag tube and end cap.

If the part doesn't come with a new screw check the Brownells cataloge, in the OEM section, Mossy should list the safety screw. Don't have mine in front of me or I would post the part number.

Bobshouse
February 17, 2002, 02:04 PM
Thanks Swampgator, on Brownells site it only mentions the 500 series. Wanted to make sure before I spent the cash.

Utvols...As for why a person would want metal instead of plastic...I cant speak for anyone else, but my reason is plastic wears considerably faster than metal. Mine even shows cuts from my thumbnail. Besides, nobody wants a piece of cheap plastic on their killin machine :D

Bob

nascarnhlnra
February 18, 2002, 09:12 AM
My reason for wanting the metal safety is I feel that the location of the safety is great but also could easily be split if bumped. The trigger assembly doesn't worry me just the safety after all I would hate to have it break off and be stuckwith the safety locked on in a crisis situation......just my .02

nascarnhlnra
February 18, 2002, 03:07 PM
Finally got a reply from Mossberg and again their answer to everything seems to be send the entire gun to them.....I hate mailing my prized possesions cause they always seem to come back with a little new scratch or ding in the shipping process.

swampgator
February 18, 2002, 06:21 PM
Check with any of the specialty tool dealers, Snap-on and MAC tools come to mind. Tell them you need something to remove a "tamper-proof" screw.

May want to check local hardware dealers too, sometimes they have things hanging around.

Backwoods
February 18, 2002, 08:19 PM
Mossberg started putting those anti tamper screws on to prevent people from messing with the safety. I'm sure that part of the reason was liability, but it's awful easy to have the safety mechanism drop into the action when you remove the screw.

I discovered this when I milled out an aluminum safety button to replace my plastic one that broke in two at the screw hole. If you're at all mechanicly inclined this shouldn't be a major problem, but if not, take it to a 'smith and let him do the job.

Don in Ohio