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Art W
December 2, 1998, 09:42 AM
I'm looking into purchasing a shotgun for home defense. However, I'm not sure I should be looking for i.e. manufacturer, barrel length, pistol grip, etc. Any help/recommendations would be much appreciated. Thanks.

fal308
December 2, 1998, 12:48 PM
A lot would depend on if you have any proficiency with any perticular action style (pump, semi-auto, double or single barrel) and how much time would you take to gain and keep that proficiency. If you're familiar with pumps (loadingg, unloading, clearing jams, cleaning, etc) stick with what you know unless you want to try something new. If you do try something new, make sure you practice with it. Practicing will make you familiar with the weapon's pecularities and will build muscle memory for when or if you ever need to use it. Remember that the weapon is only one part of a complete home defense strategy.

longhair
December 2, 1998, 01:28 PM
i think fal308 said it 'bout as well as it can be said. good advice! in addition i would say that since it's for home defense you might want to lean toward a shorter barrel for less cumbersome maneuvering in the house. :)


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[This message has been edited by longhair (edited 12-02-98).]

Rich Lucibella
December 2, 1998, 02:05 PM
Trimming the stock length is a plus, though not a necessity. It helps quicken the shoulder mount in defense (and hunting) and effectively shortens the weapon for close quarters.
Rich

wmarshall
December 2, 1998, 04:45 PM
Art, what kind of experience do you have with
a shotgun? This will help determine what kind you need for home defense. What state
do you live in? what is the lenth law and
overall lenth law?

dundee
December 19, 1998, 10:05 PM
go spent a few buck on the tactical shotgun
book by Massad Ayoob. Lots of good stuff

Jeff Thomas
December 24, 1998, 07:30 PM
Dundee, do you remember the title of the book you're referring to? I searched, but can't really find a book by that author specifically dealing with tactical shotgun use. [However, there are many, many others by Ayoob.] Thanks.

Cato
December 25, 1998, 04:51 AM
It is "StressFire II- Advanced Combat Shotgun". You might also consider the Gabe Suarez book "Tactical Shotgun" or the Louis Awerbuck video and book ( from Paladin Press ).

Jeff Thomas
December 26, 1998, 12:56 AM
Cato, thanks. Great handle you've got there.

gdeal
December 17, 2005, 02:40 PM
Remington 870 Pump. 18 inch barrel. 12 guage. 00 buck.

Garand Guy
December 17, 2005, 02:43 PM
Remington 870 Pump. 18 inch barrel. 12 guage. 00 buck.

I agree.

KWBSales
December 17, 2005, 05:38 PM
In 12ga., the Winchester 1300 Defender and the FN Police Shotgun come to mind. Not the most expensive models out there, but not the cheapest either. Plus a lot of aftermarket parts available for them (side saddle, pistol grip, extension tubes, etc.). Just to one of the auction sites and type in "Winchester 1300" or "FN Police". Should give you an idea on pricing and availability.

Hello123
December 17, 2005, 06:40 PM
Go to a pawn shop and look for a mossberg or remington pump, 20 or 12 gauge. Don't put a pistol grip on it. Have a gunsmith or a hacksaw shorten the barrel to 19 inches, load it with buckshot, and forget about it. When you need it, there would be nothing better.

USMC Tanker
December 17, 2005, 07:56 PM
+1 other vote for the Remmy 870 12 guage pump loaded with buck. Can't go wrong.

'75Scout
December 17, 2005, 10:44 PM
I've got a 1972 Remington 870 Wingmaster with a 18.5" barrel, rifle sights, and 7 shot magazine. I have added a Knoxx Compstock that greatly reduces recoil. Remington Reduced Recoil rounds feal like a push one the shoulder. I also added a Mesa Tactical aircraft aluminum 4 shot side saddel. I highly recommend Knoxx and Mesa Tactical for shotgun accessories.

CmGtSm
December 22, 2005, 05:48 PM
I would go with a 12 ga shotgun loaded with 000 or 00 buck. I don't know your physical characteristics but if a 12 seems too "heavy" check out the Youth Model shortened stock Remington 20 ga - it will still do the job quite nicely. Go with a 18 1/2" or 20" barrel, tactical barrel light (for night crawler critters when most break-ins happen) and let it go at that. You can check out the heft of both models at Wally World.

Either a 12 or 20 ga is plenty of shotgun for the job - and the light so you can see what you're about to dispatch. :rolleyes: Be sure of your target - and darn sure deadly force was necessary.

Blackwater OPS
December 22, 2005, 06:15 PM
Remington 870 Pump. 18 inch barrel. 12 guage. 00 buck.
+4, also I would reccomend the Marine Magnum Version as it can even be used as a "shower gun":D . Also, a side shell carrier w/ Slugs is a must.

HappyGunner
December 22, 2005, 07:07 PM
http://www.remingtonle.com/shotguns/870tactical.htm
It's a Police Rem.870P 12ga 18 inch bbl. shotgun. It's good to go.;)

datchew
December 23, 2005, 11:55 AM
whatever gun you choose, I'd recommend using #1 buckshot instead of 00 or 000. There's been much research done on the subject by Ayoob and others.
2.75" shells are best.

think of #1 buck as hitting the target with 20 bullets at once.

here's a quick rundown.
http://www.firearmstactical.com/briefs10.htm

HappyGunner
December 23, 2005, 02:07 PM
Quote:datchew
whatever gun you choose, I'd recommend using #1 buckshot instead of 00 or 000. There's been much research done on the subject by Ayoob and others.
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Do you have a link to this data? If not just what is their reasioning?

K80Geoff
December 23, 2005, 03:28 PM
"Best Home Defense Shotgun" should be a sticky.

Not to "Dis" anyone but this question seems to pop up monthly.

LH2
December 23, 2005, 04:12 PM
Not to "Dis" anyone but this question seems to pop up monthly.

Even if it is a seven year-old thread...

John_StLmo
December 23, 2005, 04:14 PM
Yes, there is a lot of redundancy in the forum posts - a lot of it having to do with the fact that there are just soooooooooo many posts that doing even a simple search is likely to bring up hours of reading material. Me? I like the reading and don't mind going through hundreds of posts reading about a topic (plus, I've got the time). I guess some are in a hurry and just want to have a specific question answered - human nature.

YMMV :)

datchew
December 23, 2005, 04:43 PM
HA! I just noticed how old it is. Sorry guys.

To whoever asked me for a link to my info about using #1 buck, there's a link in my post right under where I wrote is.
Was that a joke???