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Gewehr98
November 24, 2008, 01:10 AM
A teaser, as it were, but something basically fell into my grubby little paws tonight.

I considered it one of my Mauser Holy Grails, so it's turning out to be a very good, albeit early, Christmas this year.

Q: When is a K98 Mauser not a K98 Mauser?

A: When it's a K. K. Wehrsportgewehr made by the Gustloff-Werke in Suhl.

The SAd.NASDP stock cartouche is very obvious, as are two examples of a type of Waffenampt eagle on the barrel and receiver, albeit with an "N" versus the typical swastika underneath.

Different views, starting with the receiver ring:

http://mauser98.com/topsuhl.jpg

Right side receiver markings, showing the toggle safety:

http://mauser98.com/rightsuhl.jpg

Left side receiver markings, Waffenamts?

http://mauser98.com/leftsuhl.jpg

Muzzle end, bayo lug accepts standard 98 Mauser bayonet...

http://mauser98.com/muzzlesuhl.jpg

Happy dance of joy! :D

tokarev762
November 24, 2008, 01:28 PM
Love milsurp .22's!

bigjack59
November 24, 2008, 03:10 PM
I have a Mauser with some of the same markings on the barrel. Mine is a sport version my dad picked up during the occupation in the 40s. My question is what deos "Buschen" mean? It says caliber 22 long for "Buschen". I speak passable German (or did) butthat one leaves me clueless.

Tamara
November 24, 2008, 05:00 PM
Gewehr98,

Ooh! A KKW! Nice catch! Notice how green with envy I am ->:D



My question is what deos "Buschen" mean? It says caliber 22 long for "Buschen".

"Büchsen" is the word for a sporting or hunting long gun. ".22 lang für büchsen" is ".22 Long Rifle".

(The old German bazooka copy was called the "panzerbüchse", or tank hunting rifle.)

Arquebus
November 24, 2008, 06:09 PM
Tamara said: "Büchsen" is the word for a sporting or hunting long gun

I agree, I have a late 19th century German-made double rifle that has the maker's name & 'Hofbuschenmacher' on the top rib. Translates to 'Court Arms Maker', similar to some of the English makers using 'By Appointment to HRH......'.

GNLaFrance
November 24, 2008, 09:47 PM
(The old German bazooka copy was called the "panzerbüchse", or tank hunting rifle.)

I think you're thinking of the Panzerfaust ("tank fist"), a rocket launcher as opposed to a rifle, and which actually wasn't a copy of the US 2.75 inch Anti-Tank Rocket Launcher, aka "bazooka".

Tamara
November 24, 2008, 10:37 PM
I think you're thinking of the Panzerfaust ("tank fist"), a rocket launcher as opposed to a rifle, and which actually wasn't a copy of the US 2.75 inch Anti-Tank Rocket Launcher, aka "bazooka".

Good try, but actually I was confusing the Panzerbüchse (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzerb%C3%BCchse) and Panzerschreck (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzerschreck).

Sorry, it's been a couple years since my last game of Squad Leader. :D

Wiacaceti
December 23, 2008, 08:25 PM
"The SAd.NASDP stock cartouche is very obvious, as are two examples of a type of Waffenampt eagle on the barrel and receiver, albeit with an "N" versus the typical swastika underneath."

The Eagle-N marks are the commercial proofs that were required starting in April 1940, replacing the earlier BUG/Crown commercial proof marks. Your rifle is most likely from 1940-41. The Gustloff series ended at around 274,000 late in WWII.